Liverpool promotes Winsford, Hartford & Acton Bridge ….

Posted on March 13th, 2011, by The Chairman

Liverpool Chamber of Commerce (LCCI) has recently submitted its response to Network Rail to the Draft West Coast RUS (Rail Utilisation Strategy).

The response was put together by the Transport Committee (I am a member), then reviewed and agreed by the Chamber prior to submission.

Specific mention is made of the suppressed demand at Hartford, Winsford & Acton Bridge stations caused by all three car parks being full by 7am on weekdays, and by poor bus public transport connections to Hartford & Acton Bridge.

Note is also made that the alternative of driving to Liverpool and its Airport is also unattractive due to the serious congestion over the Runcorn-Widnes Bridge and the regularly extended journey times.

This makes both Liverpool and its Airport unattractive destinations from mid Cheshire, something LCCI sees could be relieved through better car parking at our three Crewe – Liverpool line stations allowing more people to use the much improved train services to Liverpool.

Click here to see the LCCI response.

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  1. Mike Battman Says:

    Wasn’t sure where to post this….

    My wife regularly travels to Liverpool by tram/train to see a friend; she usually gets the tram to Piccadilly and then a train to Lime Street.
    I suggested that it’d be easier to go to Chester on the diesel and catch the Merseyrail train to central Liverpool. She has been convinced by my suggestion and plans to try this next week.

    So the question is; can she get a through ticket off the conductor on the mid-Cheshire train? If not, can she buy a ticket on the electric or will she have to exit the station at Chester to buy a ticket?

    Thanks Mike

  2. The Chairman Says:

    Mike!

    I’m taking this as from Navigation Road.

    Going via Chester or via Manchester using the train, it’s the same price, the ticket being valid either way. It’s a much easier connection at Chester, just along the platform from 6 to 7b. There’s plenty of space on the Merseyrail trains and they’re nice and warm and comfortable. Piccadilly to Lime Street can be very crowded and rather more prone to delays. Using the tram and then a return from Piccadilly to Liverpool looks more expensive to me – others may be able to advise differently.

    Yes, the conductor can sell the ticket on the train. If they can’t, say because their ticket machine is not working, she’d need to cross to the concourse at Chester to buy a ticket as they can’t be bought on Merseyrail trains and it’s a penalty fares area, so she needs to have a ticket to travel. Going via Chester is also more convenient for James Street which is good both for the river front area and closer to the shops and Liverpool One than Lime Street.

  3. Jen Says:

    There are a few different ticketing options for getting between the Mid-Cheshire line and Liverpool. What’s cheapest partly depends on what time you are travelling, the origin station and whether you want the cheapest option or the most convenient option.

    For instance, there are reduced priced Advance singles available on some services between Manchester Piccadilly and Liverpool. However, these are only valid on the booked train and if you miss the booked train you need to buy a new ticket.

    For over 60s travelling to Liverpool the TfGM Wayfarer ticket is valid between Northwich and Manchester, Manchester and Warrington Central and all Metrolink services after 09:30 but for under 60s I think it’ll be more expensive to try and use of those combined with a Warrington Central to Liverpool ticket.

    If you’re travelling via Chester then you should compare the through ticket price with the price of buying separate tickets for each of the journey legs. (A ‘North Wirral Lines Dayticket’ is valid for Chester to Liverpool but isn’t shown on online ticketing sites.)

    There is also the option, for those who don’t mind a walk, of travelling to Greenbank and then walking across to Hartford station to pick up a Liverpool train.

    Also note a ‘Liverpool STNs’ ticket is valid to any station in Liverpool. If you arrive at Lime Street on a Northern, TransPennne, East Midlands, Virgin or London Midland service then you are permitted to make an onward journey to Liverpool Central or James Street via Merseyrail should you wish to do so. Although, you need to ensure the Northern Rail RPIs at Lime Street do not take your ticket off you if you are going to do that.

  4. Mike Battman Says:

    Thanks for that, she’s going to Liverpool tomorrow, I’ll let you know how she gets on

  5. Mike Battman Says:

    Not a very successful journey yesterday…
    She caught the 09:44 ex Navigation Road, but wasn’t approached for a ticket (is it any wonder the revenues are not what they should be)so at Chester she had to go across the bridge and buy a ticket. Consequently she missed the first connection.
    Coming back she managed to arrive about 2-minutes after the 16:02 (admittedly that was her fault, she should have caught an earlier Merseyrail train) so ended up having to wait for the 17:02

    Tram and Train next time; although as a side note there were no trams running yesterday morning between Altrincham and Timperley!

  6. The Chairman Says:

    Hi, Mike!

    The 0944 ex NVR (0917 ex MAN) is normally 2 x 2-car (1 set is shunted off at Chester, stabled for later). If she wants a ticket, she must sit in the rear 2 cars, due to the Northern rule that doors on (most) trains must be closed up from the rear which means the conductor will often not get into the front 2 coaches.

  7. Mike Battman Says:

    Yes, that would explain it; what a crazy system we have in the 21st Century! Why oh why did they remove the ticket machines?

    Bonkers

  8. Conductor Says:

    On non-gangway trains, particularly on race days I regularly announce on arrival at Chester for people to come and see me at the rear of the platform to save queuing up at the ticket office or barriers to purchase a ticket. Not to mention the little bit of extra commission than can be earned! Time and operationally permitting of course.

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